Hah! That's it! Not just fantasy, but fantasy-epic with quest: all the elaborate battles and flashy costumes, etc. Not to mention much less piratical sneakiness than before. Father-figure rescue, epic star-crossed lovers, journey to the end of the world, dual villains in real world and mystical world (Becket, Calypso) - check, check, check, and check.
I had serious issues with the end - not only did it violate the freedom-principle of the pirate genre and stunt Elizabeth's character arc, but it didn't even fulfill the fantasy genre expectations. None of the characters ended up with what they wanted, and they didn't come to the end of their character arcs (Jack's still seeking death-prevention, Barbossa has the Pearl but lost the map, Will didn't really rescue his father, and Elizabeth can't have the guy she's been chasing for years). Plus, their victory over the armada was temporary at best - by setting up that as the central conflict, they were defeated by history. Arrgh.
That's another thing - I worked very hard to ignore the massive violations of time and space and basic physics, to middling success. Seriously, guys, it took A LONG TIME to travel at sea in that era, and it was not simple to zip across to the Pacific with fifty ships for a battle that wasn't even engaged.
Jack as Peter Pan is a lovely idea. It's not just the Athena-thing, either - Peter and Jack are both essentially self-interested. People may enter their lives, but they always leave again as the boys wander off on their own tangents.
I would have been happy with the romance's conclusion and Elizabeth waiting if there was any indication she had done something other than wait on an island and get pregnant. Bleh. I want my Pirate King Swann, damnit!
I may have more quest-stuff to talk about, but not now.
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Date: 2007-06-26 02:37 am (UTC)I had serious issues with the end - not only did it violate the freedom-principle of the pirate genre and stunt Elizabeth's character arc, but it didn't even fulfill the fantasy genre expectations. None of the characters ended up with what they wanted, and they didn't come to the end of their character arcs (Jack's still seeking death-prevention, Barbossa has the Pearl but lost the map, Will didn't really rescue his father, and Elizabeth can't have the guy she's been chasing for years). Plus, their victory over the armada was temporary at best - by setting up that as the central conflict, they were defeated by history. Arrgh.
That's another thing - I worked very hard to ignore the massive violations of time and space and basic physics, to middling success. Seriously, guys, it took A LONG TIME to travel at sea in that era, and it was not simple to zip across to the Pacific with fifty ships for a battle that wasn't even engaged.
Jack as Peter Pan is a lovely idea. It's not just the Athena-thing, either - Peter and Jack are both essentially self-interested. People may enter their lives, but they always leave again as the boys wander off on their own tangents.
I would have been happy with the romance's conclusion and Elizabeth waiting if there was any indication she had done something other than wait on an island and get pregnant. Bleh. I want my Pirate King Swann, damnit!
I may have more quest-stuff to talk about, but not now.